Ep 31 - 1.4 Million People Can't Be Wrong

In this episode, Kim and Laura visit the historical towns of Tarrytown and Sleepy Hollow, New York, home to early Dutch settlers and connection to the legend of the Headless Horseman. The sisters explore the local history, cemeteries, (discover an interesting tidbit) and even experience the popular Halloween parade. Kim shares an unexpected viral moment on TikTok. They discuss their recommendations for visiting these towns (including you SHOULD visit these towns).  Join them on a journey through the charming and historical sites of Tarrytown and Sleepy Hollow.

https://www.tiktok.com/@chasinghazelstales/video/7295351751928974634

Transcript

Kim: 0:18

Hello, and welcome back to Chasing Hazel's Tails, a family history podcast presented to you by two registered nurses, all around family historians and sisters. If you've got family history, we want to talk about it. I'm Kim McLaughlin.

Laura: 0:32

And I'm Laura Ireland. So we have a few things to wrap up with. We did make it to Sleepy Hollow, finally. What a fabulous weekend we had. And a fun that we learned while we were there. I thought it was pretty interesting. The mascot of the sleepy hollow high school is the horseman.

Kim: 0:53

Right. Surprise! I

Laura: 0:57

was a little paranoid before we went about the whole headless horseman thing and turns out I didn't really need to be afraid of it after all. Yeah,

Kim: 1:04

nothing, nothing happened. Nothing happened. Nothing too

Laura: 1:07

scary. No, no, no, no flaming jack o lanterns went flying through the air. So, I was alright.

Kim: 1:13

But then again we didn't stay out late.

Laura: 1:15

That is true, that is true. Didn't go down any wooded paths in the middle of the night either. No. But, I never gave it much thought over the years with the talk of Sleepy Hollow that we had about what it might be like to be there at Halloween. And I'd, we, I really only considered it something when we talked about going there to look in terms of genealogy and getting more information about our ancestors. But, as it happens, it worked out so well, the timing of the trip with your birthday, which just happens to be so close to Halloween,

Kim: 1:50

so. And it was their bumper weekend. I mean, they celebrate Halloween for two months, don't they? I think so. I think they start in September and go right through, and I think in the middle of November, there are still certain events that they do. Yeah, so let's just say we nailed it. Party animals. We owned that town. Yeah, right. Anyway, so we're going to go over some of the things that we did. And, you know, we're just we're selling it because we loved it. So one of the first things we did when we got there was. On Friday night, we went to a street fair on what they it's called Beekman Street. And the reason we went there that night was because it had been rained out the weekend before. So we got there on Friday night and we were lucky. It was really nice. They had food crafters, dancers, you know, local. Local schools of dance. They were cute. I mean, yeah, little

Laura: 2:45

kids putting on shows and stuff. It was fun. And they were

Kim: 2:49

trying really hard. They did a good job. They were sweet. And really what was really nice is the decorations in town. And what was your favorite one, Kim? The pumpkin clock. Maybe you could describe it. So, there's, and you've probably seen it in every picture that you've ever seen of Sleepy Hollow. They have a town clock that's a round, that's just an ordinary clock. And you know, it's right on the corner of a street. And I liked it, but, but it had a big pumpkin decoration, of course, the Headless Horseman pumpkin, the pumpkin face right under it with a scarecrow looking thing and some bales of hay and it was all decorated, but when someone asked me directions or where... Might have been Laura. I think we were going to, we were figuring out a place to meet. We're going to, you know, we needed to catch up with each other and we needed well where are we going to meet? Well I said the pumpkin clock. It threw, threw Whitney right for, a loop she had no idea what do you mean pumpkin clock but was it Whitney or was it you it wasn't it wasn't

Laura: 3:58

me okay because well I didn't have my bearings yet when we were having that conversation but I didn't find it that off putting I I, I think I would have figured it out, but

Kim: 4:11

I think maybe,

Laura: 4:12

maybe Andrew didn't like the description.

Kim: 4:15

Because I called it the pumpkin clock, but it's obviously just a clock with a pumpkin below it. And I, anyway, it just,

Laura: 4:21

it was not a pumpkin with a clock face. Right. Yeah. It was not a pumpkin with a clock face. Two separate items,

Kim: 4:29

but. Together, but I called it the Pumpkin Clock. Fair enough. We knew what it was. But you really can't get too lost in that little town. It was cute. And that part,

Laura: 4:39

that was in Sleepy Hollow, right? Yes. What was it?

Kim: 4:43

Yes. I don't know. It's so close together there. The lines of demarcation, I'm not sure which, I don't know what street you step on. And then all of a sudden you're in Tarrytown, I don't know. For those who don't know, so there's Tarrytown, and then there's Sleepy Hollow, and there are two. separate entities, although I think they have the same post office, I'm not sure, but it's just that there was Tarrytown, it used to be North Tarrytown is where Sleepy Hollow was, which was just, you know historical. Name for this area. And in 1996, the town went ahead and said, well, why don't we just call this town instead of North Tarrytown, Sleepy Hollow, because that's what everybody thinks it is anyway. And so they changed it then. And any who that caught down, down the road that caused some confusion, but it's, it's 2 little villages. You don't. They just kind of mesh into one and it's you know, one area they all celebrate the same things. It was, it was great. But just so you know, when we talk about one, it could be the other. They're, they're pretty, they're pretty close to each other. So.

Laura: 5:43

Right. And they all kind of join in on the same. They the legend of Sleepy Hollow is part of their lore and they.

Kim: 5:52

Their history is that.

Laura: 5:54

Yeah. Yeah. It was very, very much present in all of their decorations, it seems to be very I don't know, very important to them. Anyway,

Kim: 6:04

so they're both, both of their respective, the identity,

Laura: 6:08

right? I would say the identity of the

Kim: 6:10

identity. And I don't think they separate

Laura: 6:11

themselves. And it's been quite some time. What was it? 1820, I think when they. When the story was written, 1820. That's about right. Yep. And another really great event that we went to was the great Jack o lantern blaze on Sunday night. Yep. And of course that was in the rain. Right. It

Kim: 6:32

was raining. It rained all day.

Laura: 6:35

Yeah, that was our only hiccup really. Our only bad weather was Sunday. Yeah. But that, that was an impressive thing.

Kim: 6:44

Very impressive. And I said, worth our 30, every penny.

Laura: 6:50

How to describe that? You know, I don't even know how many pumpkins were carved. Well, they say

Kim: 6:57

on the website. I don't have it in front of me, but a lot. And put on

Laura: 7:00

display to create all these images and an experience. And there was music and things, some things moved and,

Kim: 7:09

so entertaining. It was very entertaining. And did you, so there we were in the rain. Did you even see one malfunction? No. I didn't see one malfunction in the rain with all those people going through there.

Laura: 7:22

And it was very dark when we were there. But after I got home and I was thinking back on it and I thought to myself, those pumpkins were also orange. Were they even

Kim: 7:32

real? They must have a way of preserving them to last that long, but I think they must be, but I think they must be treated too.

Laura: 7:43

Yeah, I don't know, but either way, it, somebody put on a very good thing. It was a very good show. It was a good show, and I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed my time there, looking at all of their displays. Some of them were very artful, well most of them. We're very

Kim: 8:02

artful. Yep, very clever. The one thing I thought about that was they had, of course, they had those tents at the beginning. I just wish they'd had like some hot cocoa. They did have some, they did have some alcoholic drinks and things like that. A few things, ciders or whatever, but I was thinking, I'm, I'm cold. Not, it wasn't bad. It's just that, wouldn't a cup of cocoa be really nice right now? Or even just tea. Yeah, you know, a tea or something. But anyway, they still, they put on a really great event. And that is worth, that was worth the price of entry. 30 or 35. Yeah,

Laura: 8:34

I think we all enjoyed that pretty well.

Kim: 8:36

It was fun. Anyway, so we also spent some time at the Historical Society of the Sleepy Hollow in Tarrytown. And that's the exact name because they incorporate both villages, both towns in the Historical Society because they're... They just mesh. And we were lucky to talk with the curator, Dr. Sarah Masha, Masha. I'm sorry, I don't know how to pronounce her last name. M A S C I A. So, she was amazing. We walked in, had a few questions and she immediately knew all the people we were talking about. She knew Exactly, because, of course, I'd asked about a I told her the families that we were interested in were the Storms and the Van Tassels, and she immediately provided us with a very large volume, that thing was huge, a large volume of the Van Tassel family genealogy, and it was, it was created by, I forget the gentleman's name, it was a Van Tassel person who put it all together. How many were, I mean, it was four inches thick, five, Yeah, anyway, and it was, you know, it was in a three ring binder and all

Laura: 9:42

you know, Daniel Van Tassel, like in 1940,

Kim: 9:46

something like that. It was a while ago, almost 100 years ago. And he did a fabulous job. But it's not something that's in circulation and I don't know how to, she did mention might be able to find it in some other places, but. It's, it doesn't have an ISBN number or anything like that. So you've got to, I'd have to be able to track it down, but I did get some copies of some pages. There were, I don't know, 15 pages in the index of just Van Tassels. So that was a lot. But she was fabulous, and she told us what they had, and she knew all the history so my hint to you, or my, my thing for you is to always check with the curators, because they know where all the good stuff is, and that was really good stuff, and it was just nice to talk

Laura: 10:29

to her. And it also was very clear in all of the things that we saw, how prevalent, that that was the area where the Dutch roots, begin. Exactly. Right. You know, that, that was the origin of the Dutch roots in America was, was there. And the names are everywhere in that area. Just so many Dutch roots, but right. And as we right in that same area, We branched out and started looking through the cemeteries and we did, we were fortunate enough to find our primary ancestor that we've been looking for. I mean, well, we knew, but we found the stone for Dirk Storm and his headstone had been replaced. I mean, it looks great.

Kim: 11:19

It's worthy, but what I found interesting was that Dirk Stone was in, the best shape in that cemetery, even compared to the Van Tassels, because the Van Tassels were a much bigger family, but I expected them to have some sort of huge memorial, what Dirk had that seemed very special for some reason, I don't know.

Laura: 11:42

Yeah. And it, you could read his details about being born in 1630 and died in 1716, and married Maria Monfort, and his son was on the same stone, Gregorius Storm, and the born and died dates and stuff. And that he died before his father, which is always a sad thing. Right. And also the name, we, I remember discussing this with the girls, the wife. The wife, and I can't, I don't know how to pronounce that name. Angelica, Angelica, and Angela.

Kim: 12:20

It's again, I'm not sure, I think it's Angela or some, or some variation of something like

Laura: 12:24

that. Right, Angelica and Angela. Something along those lines. Some early form of that. Yeah. And then we found that other storm ancestor that had that circular plot and a circular almost like a gazing ball for the stone. That was a, I really, that was impressive. It was impressive in a, in a giant cemetery filled with rectangular plots to have the singular. Circular plot was very cool.

Kim: 12:59

There has to be a meaning for that, but I don't, I don't know what that would be. And one thing we did find, and we always notice other little things about other stones, and they all tell a story, and they're all historical, and you, you know, this is the story of your town when you go to the cemetery, you hear, you learn. So, what we found especially sad was stones. for three children, and we wouldn't have noticed, but the stones are connected, you know, they looked

Laura: 13:28

fused almost,

Kim: 13:29

exactly, and they were, and it was, it was a little bit difficult to, to read, but the stones were for three children, their names were Georgie, and Bertie Patterson, and Kerry, their friend. And I couldn't read Kerry's name to tell you the truth. I've got a picture of the stone, but it's just kind of worn. It's hard to read. So the names and dates, like I said, they're difficult to read. But at the bottom of the stone, it was not difficult to read. Right across the whole bottom, it said, and this is, this is unusual, but it said, they drowned together. while playing with a sled on the ice of the Sawmill Pond at Kensico, December 5th, 1821. So the reason I find that just unusual, and you know, I don't even know why we decided to stop and read that. Was it one of the girls pointed it out to us? It was. It was

Laura: 14:20

in an area where there were names that we were looking for.

Kim: 14:24

Okay, alright. And we happened to read this stone, and so, you know, it did catch our eye. So, it's just not very often that you get a description of how the children died on the stone. It was like a little historical tidbit right there. And I did try to find a newspaper account of what happened, but I could not find anything that far back, and it would take more research time than I have at this time. But... You don't really need to. You know that they drowned. And it says stone. So, I don't know. That's, that's just unusual to have. I, I've never seen it, you know. Yeah. I mean, most children that age. Three of them together. It was awful. Right. I would have guessed typhoid or something like that. I would never have guessed. Well, you know, drowning's not. Scarlet fever.

Laura: 15:07

Right. You know, I would have guessed a virus

Kim: 15:09

is what I would have guessed. Yeah, something like that. Anyway, so that was interesting to learn too. Yeah.

Laura: 15:15

And Thank you. So we also spent an hour or so listening to a presentation in the Old Dutch Church about Hulda from Bohemia, which that was very, I really was, I listened to, listened to every word of that, I think told the story of a, a healer, it was a really good presentation put on inside the old Dutch church and they've recently put up a new stone for her in the, in the cemetery. There's a new stone for Dirk Storm as well, but there's one of the older. folks in the cemetery that is a very popular, I guess, historic figure. Katrina Van Tassel, whose stone is pretty much illegible at

Kim: 16:08

this point.

Laura: 16:08

Because somebody poured something on it. It is crumbling. Somebody poured a substance on it so that they could make something to print things off to sell on Etsy, is what

Kim: 16:22

we were told. Someone wanted to sell copies or imprints of that stone. And so

Laura: 16:29

ruined it. Hopefully she's next in line for the new stone.

Kim: 16:33

I, you know, I'd vote for that. But the town, they seem to take a lot of pride in that cemetery and they should because it's a, you know, it's how they get their business. I mean, so to speak, people come for the history. They should have, you know, that they want to, to

Laura: 16:48

replace. Yeah. But she was central in the story of the Washington Irving short story of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. And the other big thing that we did was the parade in Tarrytown. The Halloween parade, and let me tell you, that was impressive. I, I'm really not that big of a parade person, and I'm not that big of a Halloween person, but I loved it. Yeah,

Kim: 17:14

it was a hoot.

Laura: 17:16

It was so fun and everybody was there. The crowd was great. Everybody was there to have a good time. Most, probably at least half of the people were in costume, I would say.

Kim: 17:27

At least, at least. Yeah.

Laura: 17:28

Yep. And the, the floats and the people in the parade were great. It started off with The Headless Horseman Chasing Ichabod Crane. And it was,

Kim: 17:41

the horses were, no, I didn't even cry. Didn't even

Laura: 17:45

look away. The horses were gorgeous. These big black beautiful horses. And, they just, they knew how to play the crowd. I would say that they, they made a couple of loops back and forth before they moved on to the next section. And then it was just group after group of either talented musicians or young kids with a marching band or like dancing troops and Or acting groups or floats and just and so many great costumes and I don't know, I, how else can you explain it, Kim? I don't,

Kim: 18:24

well, it's just so clever. And they're so creative. They've done this before. They know how to run it. It ran like clockwork. I mean, they had some of the streets blocked, you know, or the street signs that said, you can only park here till 3. Other than that, after that, we're towing you. And boom, everybody was gone. You know, all of a sudden, all the cars disappeared. And so it ran very smoothly. And I just, I can't say enough about how great they were. But my favorite, I think my favorite float was Captain Kidd versus the Hudson River Kraken.

Laura: 18:57

I, I don't even know if I could pick a favorite. I, I loved, I loved the group of hearses at the end. Yeah. With Michael Myers sitting in the passenger seat on one of them. And the, like the bloody handprints on the side. And one of them was called the dead sled. Like, I just, all the stuff was so clever. And I just, I was very, very pleased. I just, I enjoyed myself with that. I,

Kim: 19:26

and who knew? I've never been much of a Halloween person. And I didn't think, I don't think I've

Laura: 19:31

ever been to a Halloween parade. No.

Kim: 19:33

In my life. And, you know, I guess there are other places, but I wouldn't know anything about that. But and You know, and that's all I've done is talk about it since I've come back. I told all my, all my coworkers, they're probably sick of listening to me. But just, you know, why haven't you got, you have to go. And, and so I think we could sign some people up next year. But anyway, so Laura and I are going to talk about the elephant in the room. You don't see it, but we do. We know it's here. Yeah, it's a big elephant. It's a big elephant. So we're going to talk about that. And so, you know, we, what we did was we kind of, we're going to talk about the parade, because number one, it was fantastic. But it's what happened during the parade. Laura and I, you know, we and the crew, we sat down, we found a nice little bench right in the middle of, it was right across from the post office. I mean, we had primo seats and we all just, there was enough for three or four people to sit and we all just took turns, you know, and then when the parade came, it was, you know, it was on. So we found that good spot. And it was about 80 degrees. And we, it was hot. It was hot that day. And I was, I wasn't prepared for that. But I just want to mention, you know, that the streets were flowing very well. I mean, people could come and go and there was no big jams in the street or anything. And the kids were in the street. They were so excited. You just, you know, you had to be there. But so it was, you know, we were just watching people all over the place, just all their costumes and and then Andy said, well, look, he said, I think this is the Headless Horseman. The Headless Horseman's coming. So, of course, I just pulled out my phone and I just thought, well, So I took the opportunity to whip out the cell phone and and I videoed what turned out to be the start of the parade. I didn't know it at the time. I thought it was just about time. And anyway, so here comes the horse and I So Andrew said that to me, but he didn't say that to Laura. He probably thought she might bolt Here comes alas horseman. Don't say anything So anyway, I take out my phone and of course it was just. The Most Magnificent Entrance. For the, what Laura was saying before about that beautiful horse, it was the beginning of the parade, and it was magnificent, I'm going to say magnificent, that's my word for the day. They were, the horses were beautiful. Yeah, and so, they were, I called them like sleek, they were sleek, black horses, and the headless horseman was riding him, they were all in black, and of course he had the cape and it flowed and, And he

Laura: 22:08

had no head. He had no head.

Kim: 22:12

But you know, you could have been in Hollywood. I mean, it was just well done. And then my other thought was, I wonder if they do this like at football games or high school games. That's the horseman. That's a good thought. It could be. We need to go back for football. Could be well practiced. That's right. So that was really great. So you know, the thing was, I got it all on video, as did almost everybody else that was on that program. You know who didn't

Laura: 22:37

get it on video? Who? Me. Okay. Because I hit the wrong button. Oh! I thought I videoed it, but I didn't. But you okay, go on. You, you got

Kim: 22:47

it. So that's good. I'm here for you. I gotcha. So I got it on video and we, so we enjoyed the entire parade. I took pictures of everything and it lasted about an hour. But that video I just, that, that night I went home and I thought maybe, you know, I was checking my TikTok and I thought, why don't I just put that horse on there and see, It was just a nice video of the horse, and I thought people might like that. I'm not all that fancy. I don't have a million followers, but I thought... Someone's gonna like it. So I made a TikTok video and I called it how, how to start a parade 101. That's what I called the video. So basically, if you want to start a parade, this is how you do it. You have this beautiful horse started for you. And so I put it on there and I had some really great hashtags and and I put it under chasing hazel's tails, which is my TikTok account. And it was pretty popular. And so I thought, well, look at me, I've got, you know, 1000 views. And I've had that before, but that was pretty quick. And then the next thing you know, I got 10, 000 views. And then I got 100, 000 views. And then it just took off. And so I don't I don't really know what viral is, but people are telling me that it was viral. I

Laura: 24:01

think, I think you can safely say it went viral.

Kim: 24:03

It went viral. It just took off. And so I just kept checking it because I thought, huh, that's the weirdest thing. I mean, it was really of no effort whatsoever. But after a few days, It was up to 1. 4 million views. million. 1. 4 million. I still can't wrap my head around that. And that's where it is right now, because when I got the 500, 000, I said, well, there you go. That was a good run. No, it just kept going. So you know, I mean,

Laura: 24:31

the timing was just right though. Exactly. You know, Halloween, Headless Horseman, you know,

Kim: 24:36

New York, Sleepy Hollow. Yeah, it was a

Laura: 24:38

pretty, it was a pretty Cool little video and I, you know, the timing was

Kim: 24:44

right. I think it was like a one hit wonder of some sort I mean people loved it and people either you know And I'm gonna say what like 99 percent of the people they were either Nostalgic because they used to live there people would make comments and I don't know how many comments I've got hold you right on I'll tell you let's see. I have 500, over 500 comments. My

Laura: 25:06

favorites are the people who tried to tell you it wasn't in Tarrytown, that it was in Sleepy Hollow.

Kim: 25:11

I know, some people said, well, if you didn't know that there's two different towns and Sleepy Hollow is not Tarrytown, and so... But the truth of the matter is, Laura and I were sitting right across from the Tarrytown post office. And the parade

Laura: 25:25

was

Kim: 25:25

in Tarrytown. Was in Tarrytown. So, just so that we get that out there. But then, you know, a few people, so, you know, that is what you call engagement. And that is what drives views, I think, sometimes. That makes, TikTok put it out there. So anyway. But most of the people were nostalgic. I either, either I lived there or I loved that book. Yeah. Or those horses are gorgeous or anything like that.

Laura: 25:47

Or they also loved the guy eating the chips.

Kim: 25:51

You know, there were other people around me and when I'm taking the video, there's this guy in the front just stuffing his face. People noticed. Yeah. Oh, people are funny. They are funny. But you know, if it hadn't been my video, I would have noticed that. So But anyway, after a few days, it was 1. 4 million. And that's where it is now. It's kind of leveled off. So I think people are done with it. And I can't, and it has nothing to do with genealogy, which is what my TikTok account is for. So I think that was my one hit wonder. And it was, it was just kind of funny. But if you want to check it out, you just have to try chasing hazel's tails on TikTok. And anyway, so I just, yeah. I had to put that out there because we, we all were just kind of shaking our heads about the, about it. I wonder if the guy knows he's famous? Stuff in his face with chips. Oh well. Yep.

Laura: 26:44

So anyway, after all of that, we, you know, if anybody's ever considering it, if you are looking for any recommendations, yes, we would say if you're ever thinking about going to Tarrytown, Sleepy Hollow, we would say, By all means, go ahead and go. But keep a few things in mind. Parking is at a premium. It's, you don't pay to

Kim: 27:08

park, right, for the most part? No, it was, the police officer told me, and I asked him, I wasn't pulled over or anything, but, yeah, I asked him, you know How much it was to pay for parking. He said, we don't even collect on this weekend. He said, I believe in my mind, what he was trying to say was, we, we don't have time to, to, you know, to charge you. It's a good weekend. Come enjoy. You don't have to put any money in the meters, so we didn't. Okay, so there were meters, but there were meters, right. I didn't see one parking lot that said pay 20 or anything like that. Yeah, I didn't see that at all. It wasn't downtown Portland. 50 gets you all day. Yeah, you,

Laura: 27:46

you want a small car, right? And it is New York. You will get honked at. That happened. I'm

Kim: 27:54

sorry. We, and another thing is the, the roads are narrow. I mean, so like, it's like

Laura: 28:01

Cambridge, Massachusetts, if you've

Kim: 28:02

been there, right? So the side streets that go away from main street and around, some of them are one way, but. We, it's not that we couldn't find a spot. It's just that this, it's a small street. And so you have to be looking. And so I wouldn't, if you have a Cadillac Escalade or something like that, some big vehicle, I wouldn't do it. Unless you plan on parking a good distance away or get Primo parking somehow, or learn some sort of hack. I wouldn't do it.

Laura: 28:30

But overall, it was a fun visit. Lots of things to walk around and see and do and just enjoy yourself and especially if you like to walk through cemeteries. Yeah. Oh, we didn't even mention the part about there's the, the part with all the famous people in the one of the

Kim: 28:45

cemeteries. Right. In the sleep, there's two different cemeteries. One is attached to the Dutch burying ground. And then the other one is Sleepy Hollow Cemetery, which is still active, meaning they, they are still selling plots, but they have so many big mausoleums and you know, stones for famous people that people just love going. And we also went to the bridge that is in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery, which is supposedly the bridge for the Legend of Sleepy Hollow for Ichabod Crane. That was fun. I liked that bridge. That was pretty. down by the

Laura: 29:18

water. That was a very nice little side trip.

Kim: 29:21

Yeah. And they also have tours. They have walking tours that will tell you all the history of these famous people, Rockefellers, Fords, Chryslers. You name it, there's Vanderbilts, maybe, that's Dutch, but anyway, just, I mean, there's plenty of tours, plenty of things to do, and there's plenty of stuff on the websites, and there's even haunted tours, but we didn't do that. Yeah, we didn't do that. But and there's some things that aren't suitable for children, and that means, like, the haunted toys at night, they just don't accept children. But for the most part, it's very family friendly. Bring your kids. Have a good time. I didn't see one meltdown. I didn't see one child meltdown. They were having a good time. Yeah, it's very good. What else do we have? Yeah, just bring your sneakers. You'll find parking sooner or later. Just wear something comfortable. It's a little, a

Laura: 30:09

little San Francisco esque.

Kim: 30:12

Yeah. The hills. There are some hills. We went up several. Yep,

Laura: 30:18

some of them are, some of the roads are pretty hilly, so. Yep, but, but lovely. Very nice, very pretty,

Kim: 30:24

yep. And also, you can go right down and see the Hudson River too. The tap, it used to be the Tappan Zee Bridge, now it's the Governor Cuomo Bridge. But it's nice, they have a nice little walkway down there. There's a lot, you should go, that's all I'm going to say, you should go. Yep, and it's not too

Laura: 30:39

far.

Kim: 30:39

It's not that expensive. It's an easy drive from where we are in Maine, where I am in Maine. Right. Anyway. So you know, we're gonna leave that there, and we hope that you are able to go. Any questions, give us a call. We'll you know, happy to, happy to, to talk to you about it. Maybe I'll put some pictures now up on Instagram. I don't think I've put many up so far. I did on my Facebook account, but not Instagram. So be looking on Instagram. I'll see what I can do to put some cool pictures up there. Maybe I'll put the video again. Let's see what happens. If you all want to see that guy munching on chips right before the horses come. Oh,

Laura: 31:22

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Kim: 31:52

buh bye! See ya!